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The following is a portion of an email I sent to Ron Spier, and who he in turn forwarded to Louise Glass and her son Robert. I’m bringing attention only to the portion which Spier edited in his forward to Louise. His edit in my email is where he changes the name "Steven Daniels" to "Robert Daniels. You’ll see why by the time you’re finished reading this post.
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Administrator?
 
 
LG has big history that only a select few of us know about. In short, she worked undercover for the DEA as Robert Daniels wife back in the 80’s.
 
 
From: "Ron Spier" <ronspier@comcast.net>
To: "Robert Daniels" <robertd34m@yahoo.com>,"Louise Glass" <noxqq4uall@msn.com>
Subject: Fw: Administrator?
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 20:27:57 -0700

Hey Louise & Robert,
 Here’s one of the "E-Mail Proofs" I was telling you about. The truth is in this e-mail…or at least some of it. He led me to believe that you…Robert Daniels was married to your mother "LG" & that you founded Coyote Chemical or Research & that he needed to find you. Put yourself in my shoes…think about what you asked me & what he says in this e-mail. What would you think? There’s just too fucking much bullshit & back stabbing coming out of him…& then he has the fucking goul to….not once…but twice….to watch my back! Take Care for now!  Ron
 
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This next email that Ron Spier sent to Louise Glass’s son Robert daniels is quite a doozy…
 
From: "Ron Spier" <ronspier@comcast.net>
To: "louise glass" <noxqq4uall@msn.com>,"Robert Daniels" <robertd34m@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:27:43 -0700

Hey Robert,
Remember how he gave up your mother like he did & we talked about flushing him out in the open? Well…he’s out in the open now.
 
Just so you know…I’m sending this e-mail to your mother also. I hope it’s okay with you as I really don’t have anything to hide from her & you probably don’t either.
 
When I first heard about his site & logged on to check it out…I became interested in who Rob was & what exactly his part in all of this was because back in the "Day" I knew about everyone in all of the various circles or at least heard of them.
 
I & many of my friends back then don’t remember anyone named Rob Taylor. His site seemed okay & he seemed to have a lot of passion in solving this mistery & freeing Frank Gable & I actually respected that. I read several of his posts & decided that although I had never heard of him…that he must be an okay guy.
 
But his connection with a piece of shit like Shorty kept bothering me. Nobody with even a little self respect would ever…in their wildest dream….have anything to do with Shorty…especially with all of the publicity about him hanging Frank Gable out to dry like he did. So I just sat back & watched & listened.
 
I guess what really struck a nerve with me & really pissed me off the most…& brought this to a head was when he gave up your mom & hung her out to dry & did it on his fucking web site so billions of people could see it.
 
Does he fucking realize that when he did that…He just put her life in danger? If he has a fucking bone to pick with her…then he should have taken it to her by e-mail or personal message…NOT put it out there for the whole fucking world to see. It doesn’t matter who she was way back when…who she is now…whats in her past or whats in her future….That was just plane fucking WRONG!
 
Then later on Rob & I started e-mailing each other…not a lot…but enough…& he told me that LG was really Louise Glass & that she was & still is a snitch for various cops & feds here in Oregon. Now he’s gone & hung her out to dry…yet again! He’s never met me or talked to me on the phone & has only e-mailed me a few times but yet he’s giving me….a total fucking stranger…all of this personal information about your mother & hanging her out to fucking to dry once again. Again….This Is Fucking Wrong!
 
Now on the other hand…Kevin Franke says just the opposit. Kevin says she’s damn good people…not just good people…but…DAMN GOOD PEOPLE! Kevin said she’s got a lot of balls & it took a lot of guts for her to come forward….what ever…FORWARD…. means. He conciders her a really good friend & speaks highly of her.
 
Our conversation about your mother was very brief & then we moved on to something else. So who do you think I’m going to believe about your mother? Answer: Kevin…without a doubt!
 
Now for the part about you! He said that you were Hoyt Cupps office clerk & you were running a clandestite company called Coyote Chemical from that office. Now you had already asked me if I had ever heard of that company & I told you what I knew & that was the total truth.
 
But I became suspicius because of what Rob had said & the fact that you had asked me about Coyote Chemical right out of the clear blue. It just seemed odd. Rob says YOU are the same Daniels that ran the company from Cupps office. So I began to wonder which one of you were telling the truth.
 
You had already said that you were NOT the same Daniels & that you were NOT related to the other one….& I have NO reason NOT  to believe you were…in fact…telling me the truth. Well…to be honest…I really didn’t care at the time but then Rob brought it up again & said he needed to find you in order to get all of the Franke Murder information he needed from you & that you had "Dropped off of the face of the earth back in 1987."
 
There’s a lot more but we’ll get to all of that another time. I think you get the jist of what he’s up to by now.
 
Now do you see all of this proof that confirms what he’s really all about? Remember…I told you weeks ago that I would flush him out & I did! I only sent him one of your e-mails then wrote a couple nasties that slammed you a little just to scare him into a panic & it worked! Sorry for the slam & slander but it was necessary to complete the task at hand.
 
Once I knew I had his crap out in the open…I sent him a couple of e-mails letting him know that I thought it was chickenshit of him to hang me out to dry like he did. Then the final nail in his coffin was to delete my membership on his site to cause him to panic even more. It worked! I checked his site from work & I see he has locked out the public so that only members could get in. Now he’s running scared!
 
Now for the $64.00 question…Didn’t I tell you weeks ago that I was going to do this? I just didn’t say how I was going to do it. Truth be known….I wasn’t sure how I was going to do it but I was just waiting for more evidence & sitting tight until I could pick & choose that magic moment. If you hadn’t of sent me back the e-mail of mine that he sent you…I’d still be waiting! Thats why I sent you an e-mail saying "Thank You for all of your help!" I know my methods are a little out there but the results came out pretty good.
 
I talked to DP about noon today & he’s on his way back from Iraq. I explained all that has happened since yesterday about Rob & I’m pretty sure he & a few dozen of his closest friends are going to Portland to visit Rob. Do you or do you know anyone who might have Rob’s address & phone number? DP asked me to see if I could try & have it by the time he gets back. If you can get it for us…I promice on my white skin & my mothers grave that I’ll never tell where I got it!
 
Last…but now least….Please Keep a real close eye on your mom’s safety & your’s! You both know for a fact that Rob put both of you out on "Front Street" for the whole world to see & there’s no telling how many other people he’s e-mailed about the two of you….like all of the e-mail he sent me about you & your mom.  I’m watching my back too! Guess I better go for now. Take Care & Stay Safe!   Ron
 
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Ron Spier Email–5/12/06

Posted: June 30, 2008 in EMAILS-RON SPIER
This is one of my favorites. It includes Ron’s alter-ego DP…
 
Ron Spier <ronspier@comcast.net> wrote:
 
I’m completely with you on the Meg Hansen thing too! We need to pool our efforts & help her identify this guy!

 
As to JR….I think his daddy jacked off in a flower pot too…& raised a "Blooming Idiot!" Have you ever noticed that him & rw always seem to have something either totally stupid or totally wrong when they post & it’s nearly always about the same time.
 
Another thing they both do that pisses me off is accusations they seem to do a lot of….aimed at various people. They seem to think that there is some sort of corruption hidden under every fucking rock near who every they happen to be targeting at the time. I post things sometimes to them & maybe throw them a "Good Boy" or "Good Girl" bone for the sole purpose of getting them to try & be nice.
 
You probably have already picked up on this & can see that I now have them in a frame of mind that I am changing their attitudes towards trying to be nicer, if in fact they feel that they "Must Post Here!" We don’t need more assholes coming in here & causing hate & discontent! Between you & I….I would be VERY happy if rw & JR NEVER came here & posted ever again. Neither of them seem to ever bring anything positive to the table….just bullshit, anger & a big fucking ego! Other than squeezing off a few rounds in all of their little brains…The best we can do at the moment & try & "Lead by Example!" Teach them how to be "Nice!"
 
Here’s a little different kind of news but keep in quiet for now. DP called me early this morning & said that he shot & killed a sandnigger in Iraq yesterday. He said he saw the guy in the top floor of a 3 story building in a large window & used his rifle scope to check the guy out.
 
The guy had a small telescope & a cell phone in his hand & was VERY interested  in the convoy that DP was in. DP was traveling from one satellite site to another to do some work for the military. After he shot the motherfucker, the Army cleared the whole area & an Army Major picked up the cell phone that the sandnigger had in his hand…& pushed "Send" & 6 IED’s (Roadside Bombs) blew up.
 
The Army CID’s & MP’s said that the bombs would have killed as many as 15 soldiers. So about 20 GI’s all bought DP a case of beer each for saving their lives. DP took all 20 cases of beer & threw a party but when I talked to him…he sounded like he drank ALL 20 cases by himself!
 
He was all fucked up & said he had a really bad headache. He also said that since nobody but the sandnigger got killed or hurt that the government probably won’t clear it to be released to the news media for awhile. DP said he took a lot of pictures of the sandnigger & the area mainly because the sandnigger might have a "Dead or Alive" reward on his head from the US Government.
 
There was no ID or paperwork on the motherfucker. Some of those assholes have anywhere from $5,000,000.00 to a $25,000,000.00 price on their heads. DP also said that if he gets a big reward that we…& about a thousand of our closest friends are going to the Bahama’s for an "All Expence Paid" vacation.
 
So that means…for sure…me, DP, you & your family, Kevin & his family might need to start packing for a two week trip to some really warm weather! Are you game for that?
 
Guess I better go for now & get a few things done around here. Take Care for now!   Ron
 
 
 
 
 

Ron Spier Email-1/2/07

Posted: June 29, 2008 in EMAILS-RON SPIER
Here’s an email from Ron Spier where he claims he visited Greg Johnson while he was in the county jail pending trial for his current conviction. Spier even claims he put $20 on Greg’s books. Judging by Greg’s recent letter to me I highly doubt Spier actually visited Greg. Wouldn’t you agree? This is Spier’s response to a link I sent him to view a pot video I had made.
 
From:

"Ron Spier" <ronspier@comcast.net>  View Contact Details  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert

To:

"Rob Taylor" <robtaylorus@yahoo.com>

Subject:

Re: Greg Johnson aka Greg Kellcy

Date:

Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:41:34 -0800

 

I liked the video & decided to forward it to Jeanette. If she smoked pot she would likely have a better grip on whats real & whats not!

Greg says the fight was the actual night that Francke was murdered. I asked him how he could be sure that it was the same night & he said that the police had interviewed him & that the fight was one of several reasons that the cops ruled out Tim as a suspect so early in the game. He says he will put this info in a letter & it will be forth coming.
 
It’s been mine & many others experience in the past that Greg is a ball face liar. No one has ever been able to trust him in any way. Although his information may sound good for Tim…The truth is that in many ways…Greg is much worse than Shorty. I believe Greg would much rather lie than tell the truth. Just between you & I….I would NOT stick my neck out on this info from Greg until I could confirm if from another & more reliable source.
 
He gave up the info without any promice of money on his books. In fact…money was never mentioned at all during the visit. I did however put $20.00 on his books.
 
He knows he’ll be convicted of his current charges & is worried about being sent back to prison. The last time he was in was a few months after the Francke murder & he did ALL of his time in protective custody. He is well known as being a rat. It’s my guess that he’s trying to rat his way out of some of his current charges. I don’t remember what charges he actually did time for but I remember that he was somehow involved in the murder of Edward D Haffey’s (a former cook) ex-girlfriend.
 
John Brey & Will Steiner actually committed the murder. Ed Haffey knew about it & got a 12 year deal to testify against John Brey. Greg was  involved with all three of them & the victum. Most recently Ed Haffey attempted a murder for hire for his boss & his intended victum strangled him to death.
 
This is one of several links to this story. If your go to yahoo or google search bar & type in "Edward Haffey" you’ll be able to pick any one of several versions of this story.
 
I knew of Ed but had never met him until we met on the weight pile at Eastern Oregon Correctional Institute (EOCI). We used to walk the track a lot & talk. Ed had planned to get back into a recycling business upon his release. Guess he isn’t going to make it! That must have been one bad ass nurse that killed him. Ed was 5’9" at about 180 lbs. She was 5’7" & weighed about 260. She had about 80 pounds on him.
 
Take Care for now!   Ron
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The email thread leading up to the email above is available for viewing at the following link…
 

Ron Spier Email-2/11/07

Posted: June 29, 2008 in EMAILS-RON SPIER
 
From:

"Ron Spier" <ronspier@comcast.net>  View Contact Details  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert

To:

"Rob Taylor" <robtaylorus@yahoo.com>

Subject:

Re: John Brey

Date:

Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:00:44 -0800

 

I’m fine with being in the background for several reasons…one is I don’t have to take any attacks to my posts. I’m not looking for my 15 minutes of fame because I’ve already had it a couple of times….like when my lab got busted.

I made all the news channels then…but was never convicted for it. The charges started out pretty nasty but got whittled down to a conspericy & I won that one on an appeal. I got lucky!

I often see some people trying to hang on to the "Old Days" thru your site…back at the peak of their drug use when they must have thought their lives really meant something or maybe they thought that that was their peak. Sometimes I find something useful if you can carve off all of the tweek & get to the heart of the matter….but not very often!
 
Most of Kevin’s info came from tweeks that were tweeking at his expence & willing to say what he wanted to hear at the time. They had motive to say what they said at the time….dope! He should go back…find the one’s that are off the dope & start all over. I bet his views would be different on everything.
 
I remember hearing tweeks at the Eastwood Bowling Alley asking other tweeks if they would like to go with them to see Kevin Francke & get high for free. All they had to do was tell him a bunch of bullshit & the dope was free. I’ve never shared this with Kevin. Back then….Every doper had their motive….the big bag or to get money for the big bag. During the Francke murder investigation…all of these dopers started coming out of every nic & crany trying for the reward, dope or what ever they could get for their bullshit.
 
Tim being Tim may have said something to someone to try & act like he was involved or knew something in some way to try & act like a big shot. He wasn’t really any different than any other doper/tweeker. He was completely full of bullshit too…only he had a better source for dope than most. Thats probably what made him stand out a little more than most. In a lot of ways back then….I wasn’t much different either!
 
The only thing that set me apart from most of the tweeks was that I entered drug treatment & got clean years before the rest of them. Most of the people in my circle…within a few months…got clean too & we all stopped messing with the dope, got jobs, got healthy & got a life. The rest all fell or died one by one or went to prison. Most are still doing the dope & leading the life & are homeless. It’s sad but it’s their choice!
 
I feel strongly that Frank, Shorty, Jody, Tim or any dopers at all had anything to do with Francke’s murder. It had to come from inside corrections. There was only one motive for his death…to keep him exposing the corruption. When you sort through all the tweeks, the bullshit, the theories, motives, it all boils down to the same thing…"Exposing Corruption" within DOC! All the witnesses, Frank Gables, Shorty’s, fall guys, or anything else is ever going to change anything.
 
Mike was killed for one reason & one reason only…by someone acting on behalf of someone inside like Goldschmidt, McCalister, ect. ect. The tweeks of that time frame really didn’t know anything. They couldn’t have… because they never could have gotten next to the right people or in the right circles. Kevin will never except any of this because he feels that he has all of the facts & the truth. You & I know that he doesn’t & this is why we must keep digging….with or without him until we find the truth. Never give in or give up! It’s not within our nature!  Take Care for now!    Ron

I’ve been waiting for the perfect time to post this video. That time has finally come.
 
I dedicate this video to Ron Spier.
 

Ron Spier Email-2/26/07

Posted: June 29, 2008 in EMAILS-RON SPIER
The following is my response to Ron Spier after receiving his email informing me that he had been told by Kevin Francke that Greg Johnson was attempting to come forward with information, and Greg was going through Karen Steele, Frank’s ex-wife and attorney.
 
 
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Greg Johnson aka Greg Kellcy
 
I guess my first question is how in the hell did Greg know how to contact Karen Steele, and from a jail cell at that?
 
Next…why is he coming forward now? Because of pending charges? Same ‘ol shit, ya know?
 
Also I’ve never considered Karen Steele an ally in doing anything to help Frank. Her priors are just the opposite.
 
My guess is Greg is looking to get bailed out somehow. If Kevin bailed out Jodie recently, maybe Greg caught wind of it. Just a speculation. I don’t know and really don’t care. It stands to reason Greg doesn’t know shit, and even if he does it aint gonna help unless it’s something that can be argued in an appellate motion. The guys a criminal! Aint nobody paying attention to Meg who is clean as a whistle. Why would anyone pay attention to what this guy has to say?
 
We’ve already got an argument of exculpatory evidence that was suppressed (Meg’s story) and don’t have a lawyer to argue it or anyone to support that argument like Kevin or Francine, so what could this dude possibly have to say that would have more credibility than Meg Hanson. If Kevin or Francine ran with anything this criminal said over what Meg has brought to the table that would be ludicrous.
 
Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but damn, there aint even an appellate court to argue to yet under the circumstances. Hadley missed the deadline for filing an appeal on the ex post facto issue, so now we gotta wait for his motion for an extension of time to be addressed. If that motion is granted then we gotta wait for the appellate court to rule once again on that same ol waste of time argument.
 
All this waiting for a waste of time argument before we can go to the federal level.
 
So if dude has anything worthwhile to say, I say Kevin needs to get busy and hear it. How making phone calls to you spreading gossip is accomplishing anything is beyond me. No offense.
 
Sounds like Kevin’s still playing games. He must be fishing for something he thinks he needs to get out of you surreptitiously. Maybe he’s just trying to make out like he’s doing something.
 
Rob
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From:

"Ron Spier" <ronspier@comcast.net>  View Contact Details  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert

To:

"Rob Taylor" <robtaylorus@yahoo.com>

Subject:

Re: Greg Johnson aka Greg Kellcy

Date:

Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:13:05 -0800
 
Either Greg really HAS been saving something for a rainy day or he’s still full of shit…my guess would be the latter! But you never know. But Thanks….I needed your input on this anyway. Back in the day…Greg & I both played guitar & we spent a lot of time hanging out making noise but then things begin to surface about him I started keeping my distance. Then later on we found out that he had snitched off several dealers & a lab or two. No one has really seen him or able to get their hands around his neck since. If anything new comes along…I’ll send it to you anyway!  Take Care!    Ron
 
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Kevin Francke disputes Ron Spier’s claim that Kevin told him about Greg Johnson’s attempt to come forward with info. In hindsight, we now know that Spier’s claim of Johnson attempting to come forward was true. If Kevin didn’t tell him, who did?
 
In hindsight, we now know that Johnson’s attempts to come forward were apparently falling on deaf ears from 2/25/07-6/25/07, as Tim Kellcy emailed me on 6/25/07 concerning info they wished to share, and also contacted the Willamette Week on the same day. By February of 2007 it was not uncommon in my opinion to see Kevin Francke ignore potential worthwhile information. He has ignored every single piece of info that has been obtained through my website since the Shorty recantment.
 
According to Spier, Kevin shared the info with him during a phone call. That means it’s Kevin’s word against Ron’s word. I never told Kevin that Spier had informed me of Greg Johnson’s attempt to come forward until months later. I also never received word from Kevin himself of this fact.
 
I believe Kevin did indeed tell Spier about Greg Johnson. Just don’t know why unless there’s some connection between Spier and Liz, and Kevin is attempting to keep it from being uncovered.
 
Kevin himself has been attempting to discredit Greg Johnson from the beginning. Why? Apparently the WW has "come to believe what Greg Johnson is saying." The following is an email I received from Kevin Francke just a couple of weeks or so ago. Right after I received the letter from Greg Johnson…
 
Kevin Francke <kbf61553@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I am, continue to be, very circumspect re: Greg Johnson. 
 
While he was a known assoc. of Tim’s, he was on Tim’s "Shit List" from papers that were in Tim’s storage locker held by the county after his murder.  Also, Greg wasn’t part of the circle of people that Tim was moving through to arrange the murder.  Dave Rabe, and Robert "Zinc" Nicholson were the ones that intro’d Tim to Melody.  Tim was very tight with Rabe, who was the step-son of Jimmie Ennis, a major cook that was supplying crank to Tim by the kilo(s).  He’s currently doing life at club-fed, taking a plea for a life sentence…doesn’t make much sense til’ you consider they were squeezing Rabe and Ennis couldn’t risk info getting out through the kid.  Rabe had all of Tim’s car titles in his name at the time of his death. 
 
Johnson was a punk, and I spent many hours with him on many occassions.  The last time I saw him I had him bent over a bartop at Jerry’s Silver Dollar after he damn near got me killed along with Liz, Anthony and baby-Grayson, for snitching off to the cops real info, and bullshit; me having a lab in the trailer out on Center St., for bs instance.  It would have been very ugly had they come in on a no-knock.
 
All of that notwithstanding, if he did pull a rabbit out of his ass, I would certainly look at it; might be a gerbil!
 
hasta,
 
kf
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Bent over a bartop, huh Kevin? LOL! Kevin used to tell me Shorty was "on the no-option plan" prior to Shorty agreeing to an interview with the Trib, yet when presented with numerous opportunities for him to tell Shorty that himself, he didn’t exercise those opportunities.
 
Kevin can jump in here anytime and attempt to try to straighten me out, because I don’t like suspecting him of hindering progress in this case anymore than anyone else.

Ron Spier Email-2/28/07

Posted: June 29, 2008 in EMAILS-RON SPIER
Ron Spier <ronspier@comcast.net> wrote:
 
This crazy LG bitch sent me this sometime this morning. Does she think she’s my good friend or something? What do you suppose the crazy bitch is up to now?  Ron
 
—– Original Message —–
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:49 AM
Subject: LOL…LOL…LOL…

LOL!LOL!…marv!!! lol! REALLY GOT HIM GOING!!!!!!!!!..LOL!ohhhhhhh I’m dying here……LOL!!!LOL!!!!…Taylor needs to take this shit on the road!.LOL! LOL!LOL! LOL!                                       Ps….If you talk to Kevin, send him my best wishes for him and his family!………………Luigi
 
 
Date:

Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:05:31 -0800 (PST)

From:

"Rob Taylor" <robtaylorus@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert

Subject:

Re: Fw: LOL…LOL…LOL…

To:

"Ron Spier" ronspier@comcast.net

 

Yes, she’s easily entertained. Wonder why she doesn’t just email Kevin herself?
 
Ya know, when she first came to me it was because she said she got pissed off at Kevin’s attitude, and that he had rubbed her the wrong way or something. Such is the case with many others as well.
 
Don’t know what her game is, don’t really care either, but her actions seem to point at trying to disrupt anything being done for Frank.
 
Ya know, when I jumped into this all I expected to do was create a website that would inform others of Frank’s plight. Francine and the Francke’s came at me with who are you and why are you doing this?
 
It was like none of them could imagine someone with no connection whatsoever would take the time to do what I did, and none of them really have any idea how much time I’ve devoted. It’s incomprehensible to them. I never imagined in a million years I would actually find Shorty and accomplish what I did. Just goes to show ya what persistence can do. There is so much I’ve learned that I haven’t written about…YET!
 
Anyway, the website has become a very good source of information in my opinion. I’ve tried to publish the truth as I personally have learned it. Whether folks agree or not makes no difference to me. I’ve never cared what others think of me.
 
Biggest surprise of all was was my dad was right about one thing. People who have done nothing will try to rain on your parade, ride in your parade, and steal your parade or something like that.
 
Rob
 
 
BTW, thanks for the advice Louise. I am taking it on the road now, beginning at the Willamette Week website in the Greg Johnson editorial.
 
 
Oh, and just so you know Louise, I really don’t fault you for allowing yourself to be manipulated by Ron Spier. He was the one editing my emails that he sent to you and causing you and I to go at each other. You should be able to see that by now. As I’ve said before, my only problem with Louise Glass is her reluctance to share what she claims to know with Nigel Jaquiss in the wake of Greg Johnson’s claims that Natividad was paid $20,000 by Hoyt Cupp.