Jeanette Responds To My Ron Spier Post

Wouldn’t want anyone to miss it.

 

Examining Ron Spier

Louise Glass-Yvonne Heinrichs-Kevin Francke-Capital Car Wash-Lucas Chevrolet-The Natividad Family

Had a little email exchange with Louise Glass yesterday. Here’s a portion of it.

 

From: louise glass To: robtaylorus@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 11:46 AM You have no clue what "my" story is! LOL     Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:13:48 -0700 From: robtaylorus@yahoo.com To: Louise Glass   You’re right, I probably don’t have a clue what "your" story is. So everything you told Yvonne, Kevin and I must’ve been BS, otherwise I’d have some clue, wouldn’t you say?     Louise Glass wrote:   Yvonne is and has been a mental case,you…you are spun by spinning to much and Kevin is a friend…enough said!   —end of email exchange—     Yvonne is Yvonne Heinrichs. I personally don’t believe for a minute she is or has been a mental case. Ms. Heinrichs is a person who has been connected to this case since the night of the murder and was questioned by the police due to the fact she drove past the Dome Building during the alleged time of the murder. Her story about her dog acting strange and barking wildly while they were driving by is a "truth" that people like Louise Glass use to pass judgement on her and call her mental.   Well, time for me to pass judgement…again! Haha! ‘Course I’m going to do so by supporting my opinion with Louise’s own words and actions.   If anyone should be labeled "mental," it’s Louise Glass (LG). LG contacted Ms. Heinrichs long before she contacted me or Kevin in 2005. She spun the same story to Yvonne then that she spun to Kevin and I in 2005. If Yvonne is, and always has been a mental case, then why did LG spend so much time spinning her story to Yvonne, a mental case as LG says?   When LG claims I spin too much on my website, what is she referring to? The stuff I’ve spun about her which might compell some to question HER mental state of mind? Is she referring to me spinning the same story she told Yvonne and Kevin? The same story Kevin posted in Phil Stanford’s column? Yvonne, Kevin and I all three have spun the same story LG told us, yet Yvonne and I are attacked by her, and she calls Kevin a friend. Kevin, the guy who, along with his wife at the time, claimed to see apparitions of Michael standing in front of him if you want to talk about the state of ones mental capacity.   LG claims I haven’t a clue what her story is, yet I spun the same story Kevin did in Phil’s column. Does this mean Kevin doesn’t have a clue either and we’ve all three been misled by some crazy, loony woman calling herself Louise Glass? LOL!   LG and I had an email exchange a few short months ago and she ended up posting here in my blog. She’d post one day, then delete her post the next. Is this something normal people do?    Anyway, the following post appeared in my message forum a few years back. It was an anonymous post made by Kevin Francke, (Well, it came from the same computer Kevin made other posts with. I know-I’m the webmaster remember?) and it was a response to a post made by LG. A lot of interesting points addressed, and comical in other aspects. Comical because Kevin was portraying himself as a former inmate clerk and weaving LG’s story into his and Phil Stanford’s Vince Capitan and Philip Kellotat story. Phil even wrote about some of this stuff in some of his final columns at the Trib. Personally, I’d like to see whatever evidence Kevin and Phil have that any of this is true. I believe a lot of it came from stories they were told by various people. People like Louise Glass, which doesn’t give their version much credibility IMO.   I mean, I could’ve come on my website and said I found Shorty Harden and he told me he lied at Frank’s trial. Would that have been as credible as Shorty himself stepping up and admitting he lied?   Oh, I’m sure Kevin and Phil are going to spin this Vince Capitan, Phil Kellotat, LG, Steven Daniels inmate clerk, Coyote Inc stuff in their book, but it will just be a story to hopefully sell their book to a publisher. They will try to weave that inmate clerk stuff into the inmate clerk stuff mentioned in the Warden Report. Know what I mean? If not, then read the Warden Report. I think there’s a copy in the files section of this site and also in the files section at my Yahoo Groups site.   What’s that? You didn’t know Phil and Kevin were working on a book? Yeah, Phil told me himself. Said something about hoping it might help Frank and all. LOL! A book of hearsay is what I’m afraid it might end up like, but we’ll wait and see. I don’t think a book will help Frank though, unless Nell Brown can use it in court at Frank’s appeal. LOL!     In all fairness, some of what you are about to read can be supported by court documents.     Originally posted by Kevin Francke on Sep 20, 05 – 9:08 AM   LG, the question was who was murdered down in No.Cal. Shasta County, specifically. Answer, Vincent Louis Capitan. Two guys did the hit out of Oregon; both recently released out of OSP. The hit was ordered by Philip Charles Kellotat, inmate-boss who was the big-dog at the joint, and later ran the annex working with Captain Budreau and later, Armenikas.   OR Police Glover(one of the members of the Franke task force) and Hart were on the take too and covered everyone’s ass. Whitley and McAlister were the overseers of all the illegal shit going down. It was not his first ordered hit, nor his last.   He had protection inside, and out when he was released shortly after being tried for Capitan’s murder and acquitted. His two stooges that gunned down Capitan that had agreed to plea-out for the state showed up, and clammed up.   Kellotat had an inmate law clerk on his payroll named coyote that could script passes for anyone at any time, even max-security people like Kellotat. He had his own computer he was using in therether state’s prisons like NV and CA and NM; there little Murder Incorporated pals. Check out the riots down in NM back in early 80’s; Kellotat was there and lit that fuse, along with his lieutenant Buck Burgess(I seen his pic on this site too!). I was a clerk too, but didn’t have or want the business with these guys, just do the time and get the fuck out.   I tried to get the information out to the right people and it damn near got me killed. They put me in Ad. Seg. for my "safety". Woke up one night and Hoyt Cupp’s(the warden)son was shining his mag-lite in my face. "Just making sure you’re alright snitch!"   The feds were starting to get warm to the deal so State tarted there own big investigation. Glover again, and that lt. O’Donald out of Bend. Cover-up anyone?   Look back at Capitan and his connections with the mob out of Portland and how he was the big boss in the joint and they killed him in a power struggle. Anybody who got in there way got wacked. Franke to. He knew to much and was to smart for them.     Originally posted by Kevin Francke on Sep 21, 05 – 9:39 PM   #1 re: Ferder. Yes he is a druggie…attorney, that is. His tie-in is who he represented at the time, and what sort of deals he worked out for HIMSELF and his clients, who just happened to be the major shots at Gable at trial. Concigliere for the Marion County boys and to keep his ass out of bar reprisals anyone?   #2 Capital Car Wash. Long story here, but to make it short, David Waldnerpartner with and the guy who iced John Lucas of Lucas Chevrolet, who was dealing coke and other drugs through car dealers up to Portland like Tonkin group, Hilyer in Woodburn et al. See Pepe Chavez and Tim Natividad. Who killed John Lucas, and why didn’t his sons who were knee-deep in the shit ever go after the killers? Anyone mention Towery, one of Lucas’ partner, and what about his daughter and dear old John? And who put the money up for Lucas’ Chevy dealership…dealer being the operative word here, in South Salem. The boys in the canyon(Santiam, for you outsiders); the Mormon Mafia as they called half the deal; Young and Morgan Lumber Co.(oh, Brigham Young would be so ashamed Vern!), and Freres Lumber. Freres Jacque, dorme vou? Lotsa’ nice landing strips up there above Idanha for Vern and Hoyt Cupp, warden at OSP huh George? Your dad’s governor, so we’re all bulletproof. Dow at Capital Car wash was a stupid, fat-ass patsy, just like the jackass that Waldner got to do Lucas.   #3 Lancaster and Silverton? I think you may mean Portland Road and Silverton Road. That was a used car dealership with Lucas/Waldner ties, and the shop out back was used by Shorty and Natividad to cook crank, along with Bill Sweeney, Butch Hammel and Joe Logan. Sweeney and Hammel would later be tried and convicted for the murder of Julian Burroughs, drug dealer and son of Mega-Porn dealer Julian Burroughs who owned a string of porno shops up from northern CA up the valley, and used to truck illegal porn(think about that one) into Canada for a huge profit…whom also is the the largest private depositor on record at Pioneer Bank in downtown Salem, by the way. Natividad’s sister was married to the guy’s father that owned the joint, that was just a front for drugs and moving money through the system.   #4 Pinning on a dead man would have been a great deal for everyone, except the dead man was Natividad, and everyone would have asked too many questions about him, and most importantly, his relationships. People with the AG’s office(get it Scott?), Governors office, DOC, local business icons et al would be stained…some, permanently(right Neal?). The Natividad’s are part Native American, true, but a potpourri of lotsa’ other stuff, like most of us. Mother Carol was not Indian. Mother Carol was involved in a murder for hire down in Northern California that involved the mob and the Hells Angels which she pleaded out on, and that is how the whole group got to Oregon in the first place. Thank you CA. Finally, if you still have the stomach for this shit, is that Kevin Franke and his family are about as stupid as a mud fence if they think they can come into a state and a community so well-entrenched in drugs, corruption and good-ol’ boyism that they think they can make a dent. Frank Gable is actually lucky to be alive this long. Hope he does get a new trial though. It’ll make a good read.     Isn’t it weird all this criminal activity Kevin posts about anonymously concerning the Natividad’s. Even Rooster’s mother!   Yet he says his family and the Natividads are all on good terms and have socialized in each other’s homes. Don’t know about you, but if any of this stuff is true I’d think twice about having them in my home.

Blast From The Past: Kevin Francke Message Posts

These posts are amusing to read now…

 

 

Originally posted by "Kevin Francke" on Jul 26, 05 – 8:46 AM

 

I haven’t posted in a while, just watching the river flow, I guess, but this topic kinda’ hits home.

 

My first day in Oregon after moving from Florida 15 years ago, I awoke to see my car, with FA tags sitting amongst others, but with two flat tires and a note; "Welcome to Oregon, now leave!". I didn’t; and, the "hints" didn’t stop.

 

(Note from Rob: Not only didn’t Kevin leave after the hints didn’t stop and which, as Kevin claimed before, compelled him to carry a gun and seek a concealed weapons permit, but him and Liz started making babies. If Kevin’s claims are true, then why make babies? Why stay in Salem? If Kevin’s claims are not true, then why did he lie?)

 

I took it as positive reinforcement that I must be doing something right. The bigger the threat, the bigger the retribution, just let me know I was on the right track. 2005’s been a banner year; dead roses on the doorstep, letters suggesting my kids were next and some other doozies. Lots of positive reinforcement, so we must be doing something right.

 

We mustn’t concede this matter to fear as too many others have in the past. That is what created this penal colony called Salem in the first place. We have to make that next leap to the next level, and it is going to take all of us here, and all who are waiting for "somebody else to do it" to just DO IT!

 

(Note from Rob: Ok, I get it now. It played well with his "We mustn’t concede this matter to fear as too many others have in the past"  comment that followed. The brave Kevin Francke insinuating to others that even in 2005 he was still getting threats. Hell, I was the one in 2005 making such a stink in the Francke case with the Shorty interview. Nobody was threatening me or Shorty. Sounds about as ridiculous as Phil Stanford’s death threat in the wake of his Jack Rowlands the snitch columns. Haha!)

 

Of all the people who should lay low, Frank should. They have him in a fishbowl and can do whatever they want, whenever they want. He has not conceded the fight, nor will I.

 

Let’s move forward and not get bogged down. Put up, or shut up, as they say.

Kevin 
 
 

Kevin Francke wrote:

 

I wish all these "guests" would give me and the rest of us a little more insight as to their aleged sources. for all I know, the guests are just giving a shout back to their own authored posts, or…

 

(Note from Rob: LOL! Kevin ought to know. Sounds like guilty is the accuser to me.)

 

Anyway, being such an ignorant bastard when it comes to all of the Machiavellian schemes with tweeks, freaks and power geeks, not to mention the deviant sexual aspects and levers as well as leverage that those created, I would like to say this, in my igonorant, humble opinion:

 

All of you are right…kinda’. Me too.

 

The state cops weren’t all crooked, just some of them; Check out the retirement homes or future retirement homes…same for some DEA folks involved. They must have had good investment advice.

 

Shorty finally came clean and had nothing to do with the murder. Kinda’ true, but mostly wrong. Shorty’s tit was in the ringer for another murder he was involved in, and it wouldn’t have been pretty if he’d been thrown to the wolves, or wolf, in this case, and it ain’t the cops he needed to worry about.

 

(Note from Rob: Kevin claimed to know so much about Shorty being involved in another murder and so on, yet never bothered to talk to Shorty himself. Why not? He talked to practically everyone else. Kept telling me Shorty was "on the no-option plan." What a joke! Kind of like the joke from the Oregonian. A big six month investigation with conclusions drawn, yet they never bothered to talk to Shorty or Jodie.) 

 

They’d never have tweeks do the deal. What are the options here? Cokeheads? Same diff.

 

(Note from Rob: Cokeheads and meth heads are not the same. I know. I’ve lived both of those worlds. The coke world came before the meth world, and I always told myself I’d never deal or get involved with meth heads because they are the most scandalous of all. Should have listened to myself. Frankly, anyone who hasn’t lived in those worlds as an active participant (like Kevin) has no business claiming to know what it’s like. It’s not the same from the outside looking in.) 

 

McAlister, and his cohorts, DA Van Dyke and his ada’s, DOC staff and theirs, the judges and the "bridge players"(hello from the grave Val Sloper, and out of respect, I won’t mention a recently deceased judges wife who presided over some of the major cases out West here, and the guv himself! So it was rich mans powder at Jonathan’s or the Night Deposit over the poor mans powder at the Ranch or the Doubletree?…not! They were all buzzed, and most of you should know how smart the shit makes you, and how invinceable; and, how it brings out those ugly deviancies that you don’t like the papers getting ahold of. Keep it in the club. And that club has the ties that bind; the kiddy porn, home movies, hot tub parties…keep it in the club.

 

So who ya’ gonna’ call? Ghostbusters? Everybody was on the make or on the take, so it didn’t matter! Get it?

 

I agree that all roads lead to Rome…er, Shorty; but Shorty was not the dog wagging the tail. Natividad was ahead of him in line to McAlister. Tim was the go-between here and set the table for Scooter. Shorty followed the order coming down the pipeline.

 

But what about Buck, Melody, Conrad, Bennet and those folks? They are critical to how it finally played out.

But sorry, I can’t figger’ it all out. I am just a new kid on the block.

Kevin.

And I am still at kbf61553@yahoo.com

 

Ron Spier wrote:

 

Hey Rob,
When & where was the "Going Away" party for Scott McAlister held? Were any pictures or video’s taken at that party? Was there a guest list & if so, who all was on it? Was there a "Going Away" card or cards that everyone may have signed or was there a "Sign in Sheet?"

 

I would check to see if any pictures taken at the party that resemble the way anyone there was dressed or looked like the sketch…If any were taken. If there’s a guest list…confirm who WAS there for sure, try & find out who was on the list but didn’t show up & see if they looked like or dressed like the sketch. Show Meg the pictures of the party…if any…& see if she thinks the "Copy Repairman" she saw was in any of the pictures. ALL of this SHOULD have been done 17 years ago & viewed from every possible angle. The way people look changes a lot in 17 years so this will NOT be easy. Doesn’t anyone know anyone that can run the sketch thru the National Criminal Photo Data Base for all possible matches? That would sure be a lot of help….But Again….I Can’t stress this enough….ALL of this should have been done 17 years ago! ! ! I just can’t believe that an investigator…even a rookie investigator would have not examined this theory from EVERY possible angle way back then….Unless there was…in fact…a "COVER UP." What other possible reason could there be? ? ? ?

 

I believe you are on to something really important here Rob! ! ! Let me know what I can do to help!

 

RS

 

Coincidentally Kevin Francke replied (and you know how I feel about coincidence-LOL):

 

It was at Union Street Pizza and Union and 12th, RS. Grauce Caudhill set it up(the gal back on the pictures page on this site with McAlister).

 

(Note from Rob: Here again Kevin offers his extreme wisdom, claiming the woman pictured in the pic I snapped of Scott McAlister was Grace Caudhill, McAlister’s wife. It wasn’t Grace. It was Tempe Municipal Court Judge Schattenberg. Just one more example of why whatever Kevin claims to know needs to be taken with a grain of salt.)

 

The party was said to have been for Bill Bertram who was McAlister’s only investigator at the AG’s office. He resigned at the same time that Scott did, and went to work for Hal Whitley in Carson City while Scott left a few days before to head for Utah with Al Imig in tow, and Grace, after dumped his girlfriend who died several years ago. Lot of dead folks in this deal. Smilin’ Al Chandler was there, along with Kennicott, chief of security, and other DOC and AG folks. It’s funny how on a Tuesday night, dead of winter, all the key players had an alibi at public locales. The crew at Union St. Pizza, Dick Peterson at Elmer’s, Tom Fuller at the Black Angus—

 

Some folks said they saw Scott that night, but he was "in Idaho"; or was he? Bertram said Scott left the Thursday before. I don’t think so!

 

If anyone can come up with a solid alibi for McAlister, Natividad and Burgess, I’ll kiss the Pope’s ass at the Dome Building wearing a pink tutu or an altar boys outfit—-his choice.

 

Ya’ll talking about Eyerly; what about Frank Thompson and him blowing the whistle on Cub Houck and all the good ol’ boys, only to come up a floater on the Willamette two weeks after asking for a subpoena before the ethics commission?

 

Big ol’ gash on his head—must have hit the water pretty hard. Doesn’t explain all the blood back at his house from that morning he went missing and then walked downtown and took a leap off the railroad tressle, after he stopped for a drink at the Stagecoach. Another funny about that one—this whole thing’s got me laughin’ my ass off—when his body floated two weeks after he "disappeared", a gal called the police and said she saw a guy take a header off the tressle.

 

She and her boyfriend were boatin’ that day, spun around and didn’t see anybody so went home. Duh…call the police then, bitch! Also, the gal was the sister of the bartender at the Stagecoach bar downtown; last place Thompson was seen alive that Sunday.

 

Thompson was into alternative sex; fine, to each his own, unless it compromises innocent kids or people; or themselves and others that have to cover it up to protect their jobs/family/empires. He had a weird deal going with Mary Wendy Roberts; the daughter of Sect’y of State Barbara Roberts(Goldshit cronie), and soon-to-be-guv. Heard talk that Mary Wendy was a little light-footed too, but, as I said; as long as…

 

So there’s another little weird sex angle in this thing, and another body; another "suicide".

Want another one? Julian Burroughs. That’s a good name to not ever mention around Salem. See what Shorty has to say about the porn-king and his son, the dear-deceased Julian jr.

 

John Lucas anyone? RIP. Waldner’s grinning ear-to-ear, and his chicken-shit sons Michael and Pat just pick up stakes and move the operation to Florida.

 

McAlister’s gotta’ be enjoying the hell out of this when he logs on and reads through these posts. But there’s a bonfire burning in his brain that is the big "what if?". Folks roll Scott, you now that. folks get a conscience to; you wouldn’t know that; but you may find out the hard way! Keep slogging down those Lil’ Debbies with a rum and Coke; they like the porkers in the joint.

Science Is The Dumbest Religion!

Examining Ron Spier cont…

More emails from Ron Spier. This next one is one of my favorites. You’ll see what I mean. It also supports my claim that Spier was attempting to control and manipulate specific site visitors.

 

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:58 PM

I’m completely with you on the Meg Hansen thing too! We need to pool our efforts & help her identify this guy!

As to JR….I think his daddy jacked off in a flower pot too…& raised a "Blooming Idiot!" Have you ever noticed that him & Rhonda Weber always seem to have something either totally stupid or totally wrong when they post & it’s nearly always about the same time. Another thing they both do that pisses me off is accusations they seem to do a lot of….aimed at various people. They seem to think that there is some sort of corruption hidden under every fucking rock near who every they happen to be targeting at the time.

 

I post things sometimes to them & maybe throw them a "Good Boy" or "Good Girl" bone for the sole purpose of controling them. You probably have already picked up on this & can see that I now have them in a frame of mind that I am changing their attitudes towards trying to be nicer, if in fact they feel that they "Must Post Here!" We don’t need more assholes coming in here & causing hate & discontent! Between you & I….I would be VERY happy if rw, JR, LG, Jasmin & maybe RD NEVER came here & posted ever again.

 

None of them seem to ever bring anything positive to the table….just bullshit, anger & a big fucking ego! Other than squeezing off a few rounds in all of their little brains…The best we can do at the moment & try & "Lead by Example!"
 

Here’s a little different kind of news but keep in quiet for now. DP called me early this morning & said that he shot & killed a sandnigger in Iraq yesterday. He said he saw the guy in the top floor of a 3 story building in a large window & used his rifle scope to check the guy out. The guy had a small telescope & a cell phone in his hand & was VERY interested  in the convoy that DP was in. DP was traveling from one satellite site to another to do some work for the military.

 

After he shot the motherfucker, the Army cleared the whole area & an Army Major picked up the cell phone that the sandnigger had in his hand…& pushed "Send" & 6 IED’s (Roadside Bombs) blew up. The Army CID’s & MP’s said that the bombs would have killed as many as 15 soldiers. So about 20 GI’s all bought DP a case of beer each for saving their lives. DP took all 20 cases of beer & threw a party but when I talked to him…he sounded like he drank ALL 20 cases by himself!

 

He was all fucked up & said he had a really bad headache. He also said that since nobody but the sandnigger got killed or hurt that the government probably won’t clear it to be released to the news media for awhile. DP said he took a lot of pictures of the sandnigger & the area mainly because the sandnigger might have a "Dead or Alive" reward on his head from the US Government.

 

There was no ID or paperwork on the motherfucker. Some of those assholes have anywhere from $5,000,000.00 to a $25,000,000.00 price on their heads. DP also said that if he gets a big reward that we…& about a thousand of our closest friends are going to the Bahama’s for an "All Expence Paid" vacation. So that means…for sure…me, DP, you & your family, Kevin & his family might need to start packing for a two week trip to some really warm weather! Are you game for that?
 

Guess I better go for now & get a few thing done around here. Take Care for now Bro!   Ron

 

(Note from Rob: You think Kevin is still hoping for that vacation in the Bahamas? LOL!)

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:17 PM

If you are looking for Robert Daniels….all you had to do was ask!

 

(Note from Rob: I was looking for Steven Daniels, Louise Glass’s ex-husband. I already knew Robert Daniels was alleged to be Louise’s son.)

 

He’s in Mathis Texas…near Corpus Christy Texas. He’ll tell you different but he & LG have both sent me e-mail & it appears that the IP address & the GUID number are the same. I have access to software through DP & we tracked it to Mathis Texas…about 2 blocks from Lake Corpus Christie. When DP gets back…I can get him to get you a hard address. I know she’s a snitch…if she’s not a badge carring cop or a badge carring agent for the feds….then she’s a fucking snitch.

 

Lots of years ago when a few Oregon laws got changed…I wasn’t able to buy reagent P2P anymore…but I could everything else without leaving a trail. I was told by Ben Thomlinson & Norm Normile…both former OSP inmates that it could be had for a price through Coyote Chemical. I declined for several reasons. I knew several other cooks that had cooked for years without getting busted…then did business with Coyote Chemical & shortly there after….got busted.

 

His reagent P2P was going for as little as $200.00 for 500 mils & would produce a pound….2 pounds if you cut it 1 to 1….worth about $20,000.00 wholesale when finished. Everybodies credit was good with Coyote Chemical! Think about it…what could someone (Cops) use to attract just meth cooks? Very damn few of us actually knew how to make P2P.

 

I’m skilled in 11 different ways to make reagent P2P using 1 of three different types of acitate (Lead, Sodium & Potasium) all based on phynelacidic acid. Thats just like the P2P that Russ Parker here in Salem was trying to sell to all of the local cooks. 15 cooks paid for it but only one of them actually received it…Gary Tull…& the cops shot & killed him during the bust. The other 14 got raided & busted for having precursers, glassware & several of the other chemicals needed to make it.

 

Louis Glass is a WELL KNOWN SNITCH & no body connected to her can ever be trusted either! I actually know people that will pay good money for her address. I’m not getting involved with anything connected to her….ever!
 

I also knew about JR attempting to blow up Polk County court house…in fact…the hole he drilled are still there.
 

Check out my posts that have to do with Jasmin…they’re all good…& polite.
 

As to clearing Tim’s name…that would take a lot of fucking work! I can’t account for his actual whereabouts on the actual night of the murder. I thought I could until Kevin clued me in on the time line…I was off by one day. I related both of our whereabouts based on the morning we heard about the murder on the news…then worked backwards…thinking that the first news broadcast happened on the 19th. Actually it was broadcasted on the 20th….so I can account for Tim on the 18th, 19th & 20th…but not the 17th.

 

A lot of people saw Tim as a stone cold asshole & to them…he probably was! But to DP & I he was just another one of the neighborhood kids that liked to camp & ride dirt bikes with us & was basically a pretty good kid. The three of us never ever had any bad words or feelings between us…even as adults.

 

The only part I’m sticking to is that his z car was in my possession in my shop long before  Franke was murdered & for months afterwards. Also…the fact that Tim was in fact with me all night before the morning he was shot.

 

Other than that…I don’t feel a need to defend his actions any further than that. Anything bad that someone says about him past what I have said…may very well be true.
 

Gotta get to bed! Long day tomorrow! Take Care for now!
Ron

Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:28 PM

Lets start with Bill Storm for now. I got to know Bill really well while doing a short 90 day stretch in Marion County Jail for drop kicking a cop in the teeth during a drug raid. I didn’t mean to but the basterds kicked in a door just 4 feet from where I was sleeping. I didn’t realize what I had done until a few moments later.
 

Bill was in for something to do with a meth lab…I don’t remember what the actual charges were. Seems like he got pulled over at 3:00am in his loud exhaust Camaro right after he had left the lab, had a bottle of p2p in his jacket pocket & smelled really "Propie." Bill has learned a lot & grown up a lot over the years. Bill is NOT a rat.  If you want something from him…just ask & he’ll probably give it to you. But if someone tries to force it out of him by threats or violance…he’ll stand his ground & fight til death. Bill Storm is as solid as they come!
 

The last time I saw Bill was about 7 or 8 years ago…right after he got out of the joint. He came out to my farm in the country to visit for awhile…nothing connected to the Francke murder. If you have specific information you need about Bill…just ask & I’ll see what I can do.
 

Dennis Gause was also in MCJ the same time Bill & I were. I don’t know a lot about Dennis but we did hang out for a while. We were banging the same chick (Diane Bell) for awhile & often laughed about it. Dennis is also a solid dude & has been the whole time that I knew him.

 

(Note from Rob: I actually met and got to know Dennis Gause through Shorty. Nothing I saw supported Spier’s claims that Gause was "a solid dude," EVER!)

Curtis Coffin used to be an OSP guard that finally got overwhelmed by his addiction to meth & coke. He’s a really big guy & looks a lot like "Silvester Stalone" in the face. Curtis & I were in the same drug treatment group for about two years so we were pretty close. I remember when he did his "First Step" he talked a lot about how he got there but I don’t remember anything ever being said about OSP or corruption. Former inmates were always telling me about him & that if you needed anything brought into OPS…he used to be the guy that could get it in for you. Curtis never shared any of that with me. Some or most of this stuff could be rumors or made up…or maybe its all true? ? ?
 

Enough about names for now. I’ve seen where Meg Hansen’s name has appeared a few times but the truth is…I don’t know anything about her or her story. Can you direct me to the link/s where I can read up on what she has had to say? Also what was her part in all of this & how did she come across her story?
 

There are a couple that I met years ago that claimed to know everything about the murder & what little info I was able to gather seemed to be real. Their names were Leon Sullens & Dawnelle Hays. Leon looks either korean or japaneese, about 5’8" w/ long 15" or so black hair. Dawnelle or Dee is about 5’10" with long Red hair. I later found out that they were both rats for a local cop named Randy Hicks…& evidently had been for 5 or 6 years.

 

Both of their names are well known in the joint because of their snitch activity. These two are the worst kind of snitches…they not only snitch people of but they lie & even plant evidence to make themselves look better. I just bet they were instructed to do that by Randy Hicks…He’s the crooked cop type!
 

LG posted something this morning about "The Looney Toons" are back on your site…meaning JR, Jeanette with her dream & RW. She’s right! If I were you…I would NOT let those three post anything unless it gets sent to YOU first for approval & maybe a lot of editing!

 

They are making your site look really bad & people aren’t taking you serious because of them & people like them. It’s not just me that has noticed this…everyone says about the same thing. Hell..We all know that JR is a spun monkey, RW has extensive brain damage from not getting treatment for the clap when she was whoreing for Lynn Jenkins at the townhouses & then there’s Jeanette & that STUPID FUCKING DREAM that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Most of the time you come up with some really good & creditable stuff but as soon as you post it…out comes one or more of your village idiots & your creditability & hard work go right out the fucking window. But Hey….It’s your site! Good Luck!

 

(Note rom Rob: If Jeanette and her dream were so stupid, then why did Spier take the time to drive from Salem to Portland to visit her in person?)

 

Examining Ron Spier

Due to a few new recent site visitors, some of who are participating with their comments, I’ve decided to once again start posting emails I’ve received from Ron Spier.

 

Spier has been a topic lately of some of my posts, and played an integral part in some of the issues I’ve been addressing.

 

In the past five years many people have contacted me through email. Some with legitimate knowledge and contributions, and some not. In nearly all cases, time has been the one main factor in helping to determine if their intentions were sincere and honorable or if they might’ve had ulterior motives of some sort.

 

As time permits, I plan to eventually post all of the emails I’ve received from various people whose intentions I’ve determined were other than honorable. These emails will be posted in the website message forum and I will provide links here in the blog as I get them posted.

 

Today I’m offering a couple of emails from Ron Spier that date back to April of 2006. More will follow. There are over 200 emails total from Ron Spier alone. Read these emails, and determine for yourselves your take on Ron Spier.

 

Ron Spier wrote…

 

Below is an obituary for "Bob Hersha" also known as "Dr. Bob." Bob was a local crank cook here in the Salem area. Has any part of your’s or Kevin’s investigation turned up anything on this guy? I think Kevin’s has but I don’t have the details yet.

 

Robert Hersha

July 10, 1955 – July 2, 2003

SALEM – Memorial service: 8 p.m. today, July 4 at 3305 Portland Rd NE Space G. Arrangements by Howell-Edwards-Doerksen with Rigdon-Ransom Funeral Directors.

 

Also there might be another player involved named Marie Wagner. Tim N’s car was seen early on the 17th of Jan. 1989 parked in her driveway on 25th street near State Street. A few hours later it was seen again…still in the driveway but Marie’s car was gone & the lights inside her house were off suggesting that her & Tim may have been gone somewhere together in Marie’s car. This would have been between 5:00pm on the 17th & maybe as late as 2:00am on the 18th. Sometime after Tim’s death, Marie was found in a ditch north of here near St Louis Ponds or something to that nature, with 7 .357 bullets in her brain. Her killer has never been found & I really don’t think anyone is looking either. I remember seeing her obituary & picture in the Statesman Journal but I wasn’t able to pull it up on a search.

 

This information may not amount to anything, but if you & Kevin are sure that Tim had something to do with Michael Franke’s murder then you will have to include Marie Wagner in your investigation because it was me that saw Tim’s car the first time & Dr. Bob & I that saw it there several hours later. Here’s the Fucked Up part about all of this…I have never brought any of this up before to anyone because I can’t prove it, except by just my word. Tim N, Marie Wagner & Dr. Bob are all dead.

 

If Tim had a female partner in this…it wasn’t Jodie Swearinger, It would have been Marie Wagner & Marie had the balls to do it. She was always a bold, crazy bitch with an attitude & a bad dope habit. She & Tim both collected knives & often traded each other for dope or pussy or what ever.

 

All I ask is don’t post any of this on your site. You & Kevin need to keep this to yourself & confirm it with death records & maybe meet with me for the rest of the finer details.

 

You have a few regulars like, "Mom","RW", "Jeanette", "JR" & "LG" on your web site that are half wits & would fuck this all up if they knew about it. My home number is … here in Salem. My cell is … I’ll talk to you or Kevin about this but no one else.

 

Take Care for now!

      Ron

 

In my reponse I asked Ron if he was related to Mike Spier and received the following reply…

 

I was wondering when someone was going to get around to asking me if I was related to Mike Spear. This is a really long story but I’ll try & keep it short. Mike Spear’s real name is "James Michael Spear" & mine is "James Ronald Spier."

We used to look a lot alike, we were about the same age, we knew all of the same people, & both of us were tought how to cook dope by the same (Bob Horton "The Wizzard") Guy. But for a lot of years we never knew each other until just before the Franke Murder…we met at Marie Wagner’s house one night. He & Candy were in town for a few days & were visiting Marie. He & I talked shop for about 15 hours straight.

That was the same night that I told Mike about a bi-product that I was getting in the last  few months when I made P2P with lead acitate. This crap was emmitting at about 203 degrees F, then would clear up when I was pulling the P2P across the Allen Condenser under vaccume. I had it analized & found out that it was a dybenziel keytone bi-product that causes cancer. Later I found out that DEA had a sub chemical added to the phynel acidic acid to cause dope cooks medical problems.

Mike & Bob noticed it while making P2P but never paid any attention to it. When I noticed it…I would trap it in another flask, then at 203 degrees F, I would switch back to the first (P2P) flask & finish the reaction.  Long Story Short… In Bob’s career as a cook…he only tought 12 people how to cook as good as he was. Of those 12 people…I’m the only one still living. Bob Horton, Mike Spear & the other 11 cooks…ALL died of brain cancer with in five years of each other.

The only reason I’m still alive is because I took the time to find out what was happening, have it checked & do something about it. Actually…I stopped using lead acitate & switched to potasium acitate about that same period of time so I could have better control during the P2P reaction…plus it produced cleaner dope.

It had a few more steps & took more time but it was worth it….in the long run.

I ran pretty hard for another couple of years until I got my farm & beach house paid off then I just got out of it all together. For a lot of years…no one ever knew who I was or what I did &  Bob went to a lot of trouble to keep it that way. He used to say that I would always be his "Secret Ace in the Hole." A couple of times over the years…he had got busted for either cooking or fights or what ever & no matter how much the bail was…he could always call me, I would fly in & bail him out for cash then he would just skip out & never go in that area ever again. He cost me $40,000.00  cash one time for stabbing a nigger in the leg & pushing him off a roof.

Bob was always a good & loyal friend. He never left me hanging….ever! Nor did I him! So thats my story & I’m sticking to it! Oh…Of all of us cooks….Mike Spear was the last one to die….in California just a few years ago.

So anyway…I cleaned up my act & I haven’t done ANY drugs or even booz for over 14 years now. Life is GOOD! ! ! ! !

 

In my 35 plus years in Oregon I have traveled thru a lot of circles, met a lot of people & have learned a lot about a lot of different things that go on around here. When & if I should ever have….for what ever reason…to share any of my wealth of information, I have always made sure that I tell the whole truth from start to finish.

 

I may not know the whole story but I’ll certainly tell the truth about all that I do know. We ALL have been hearing about Tim N, his Z car, his whereabouts, his possible involvement, all the different people that keep thinking & saying they know this & that & he did this or that. All of this info has been stored in my head all of these years & it just finally came to a fucking head over Tim’s Z car & it’s whereabouts during the murder.

 

The Z car was in MY fucking shop LONG before the murder & LONG after the murder. I just couldn’t take the bullshit lies anymore so here I am…Just Bigger Than Shit…With The Whole Truth…& Now An Attitude.

 

I’m meeting Kevin tomorrow so I can begin telling him all that I know. Kevin has done an extremely GREAT job gathering information…a lot better that I EVER thought he would but a lot of his info isn’t quite the whole truth. He got the jist of it okay but was lied to either on some or most of it. I’m not sure if I have anything completely new for him but I’m sure I can refine most of what he already has into the pure truth. I never knew that some of his info was tarnished until recently or I would have contacted him years ago. But on a scale of 1 to 10 for gathering facts, althou somewhat tarnished with tweek lies…he’s right up there.

 

Tweeks have this uncontrolable desire to try & tell a complete story when they only ever had a very small piece of it…so they tend to make up a lot of parts & pieces to fill in the blanks & bring the listener up to todays date which clouds or will mask the actual true facts especially if they are being paid to tell the story….kinda like Shorty & Jodie. I believe this is what has been happening to you & Kevin for a very long time. It will take a few get-togethers to sort this out & get back to the facts that are really true & correct & kick out all of the bullshit but it will be worth it for all of us. I don’t have the whole story on all players from start to finish….no body does!

 

But at least I’ll tell the whole truth & ALL that I know as best as I can remember & produce proof as often as I can. As to the parts that are missing…we’ll just have to try & figure out how it went down the best we can. All we can do is our best & try & keep a positive attitude. Keep in mind that through all of this…& during the next few weeks or months…you & Kevin are going to discover that you have been purposely lied to many times…over & over by people you thought were being honest. You are both probably already aware of it but if it were me…I would keep it to myself until this is all over or until it serves my needs at a later date. I’m all for investigating but lets investigate smart & exployer all angles & motives. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about.

 

Anyway…We’ll talk more over the next few weeks or months. Guess I better go for now. Take Care!

    Ron

The Bible bill? – Yahoo! News

When the clock strikes midnight on Dec. 31, 2009, Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) hopes you’ll be ringing in “the Year of the Bible.”

It’s probably just wishful thinking.

Broun’s simple congressional resolution aimed at honoring the Good Book has produced a push-back of biblical proportion in the blogosphere, with critics dismissing it as either unconstitutional or a waste of time. Jews in Congress and atheist activists are dismissing the resolution, while none of the many Democrats in Congress who are Christian have bothered to sign on as co-sponsors.

According to GovTrak.us, the resolution is among the most-blogged-about pieces of legislation, with most posts less than complimentary in nature.

“Does that mean 2009 is not the year of the Bible?” mocked Rep. Barney Frank ­(D-Mass.), who is Jewish. “What is 2012 the year of? The Quran?”

“That’s an endorsement of religion by the federal government, and we shouldn’t be doing that,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), even though he has introduced his own legislation dealing with religion.

“Republican lawmakers with apparently too much time on their hands and no solutions to offer the country are pushing a resolution that will not address the nation’s problems or advance prosperity or even untangle their previous governing mistakes,” blogged the Progressive Puppy.

Broun rejects the critiques leveled at this effort.

Read the entire article at the length below.

The Bible bill? – Yahoo! News

Super snoop (Jack Bog’s Blog)-Phil Stanford Website

Well, I’m about a week late, but curious to see if my post at Jack Bog’s Blog garners any comments…or if it even stays up. LOL!

Seems Jack made a blog post on the 13th about Stanford Investigations and Phil’s new website. Maybe something will spark up over there like it did at the WW’s Greg Johnson article. The link below will take you to Jack’s post and the comments. Here’s the comment I made…

 

Is Phil still working on the Francke case you ask? As the webmaster of freefrankgable.com it’s my opinion he has ignored more leads in the past four years than any he has developed himself in well over a decade. Since the release of that movie in 1996 to be precise, and as Jodie Swearingen told me recently after watching it for the first time, “it’s ridiculous, and just glorifies Kevin.”

Phil essentially disappeared from the Francke spotlight for nearly a decade after the release of that movie. His first Francke related column after joining the Trib in 2001 wasn’t until 2004, during the time the Goldschmidt story was breaking.

His “Francke page” on his new website lists eight links to the Trib of Francke related material between 2004-2006. Pretty much the bulk of his Francke related work in the eight years he was at the Trib. One link is to the Jim Redden article of his interview with Shorty Harden. You know, the article that made it clear that the Trib doesn’t pay people for interviews, then reported I paid Shorty Harden $1,000, and quoted me saying the money came from the Francke brothers.

Why quote me to report that fact? Not only were they aware themselves that the Francke’s chose to use me as a middleman for a transaction I gave them the opportunity to negotiate themselves, but they were also aware the Francke’s were planning to cough up an additional $2,000 the following day, which they did before the story went to print. How come they didn’t mention that? You might say I developed quite a different perspective on Phil, the Franckes’, and the media during that time. The article also claimed my website was devoted to proving Gable’s innocence, painting a picture IMO that I was attempting to do that by paying witnesses to change their stories. I’ll admit I was naïve at that time by trusting Phil and the Franckes’ that we were doing the right thing by giving money to Shorty for that interview, but they should’ve known better. Do any of you think it was the right thing to do?

Phil and I have reached an impasse of sorts it seems over my desire to review the trial transcript of Liz Godlove for the murder of Tim Natividad two weeks after the Francke murder. Natividad being the person Phil and Kevin Francke have been pushing for years as the guy who really stabbed Francke. She was a meth-head who was tried and acquitted a mere five months later with a domestic self-defense argument with no-one else to corroborate her story. That had to be one of the greatest legal victories for a defendant in Marion County in years! I would’ve framed the transcript myself, yet the Franckes’ claim they have no copy and it was never preserved because Liz was acquitted. Jack, you’re a lawyer, what say you on that?

If the transcript was never preserved, and as Kevin claims, he was only allowed to read a portion of the transcript which contained testimony from Liz, how was that enough to convince him (and Phil apparently) that she was being truthful? Not to mention marrying her! Lotsa peculiarities. Then there’s the hypnosis Jodie did for Phil where she said she thinks Vince Taylor killed Natividad. Jodie confirmed that again recently in a text message she sent me. Shorty told me recently Vince Taylor is Liz’s cousin. Can’t get anyone to confirm that. Did Liz take the fall for her cousin? Did the prosecution throw the case? They obviously didn’t buy Liz’s self-defense argument or they would’ve dropped the charges. How did they lose this one?

Super snoop (Jack Bog’s Blog)

Welcome to PhilStanford.com

Decided to check in on Phil Stanford’s new website today to see if any progress had been made. The URL had been secured a few short months ago but only revealed a picture of Phil. The site appears to have made some progress and now promotes “Stanford Investigations,” Phil’s current line of work since leaving his position as columnist for the Portland Tribune in December 2008. There are five pages total which would’ve only taken a few hours at most to publish, so I’m thinking this is how the site will remain for the time being, if not indefinitely.

The pages are titled as follows:

Home Page

Portland Confidential

Francke Case

Contact

Links

The home page introduces Phil and remarks, “As a journalist, he’s best known for his continuing work on the 1989 murder and cover-up of Oregon Corrections director Michael Francke. His 1994 Oregonian series on the “Happy Face Killer” case resulted in two innocent people being released from prison. Before coming to Oregon, Stanford worked as a private investigator in Miami and Washington, D.C. He has written on crime, national security and intelligence matters for a number of national magazines, including the New York Times Magazine, Washingtonian Magazine, Parade, Columbia Journalism Review and Rolling Stone.”

The site does not offer examples or links to any of the above mentioned articles or a synopsis on how his work on the Happy Face Killer series of articles resulted in two innocent people being released from prison.

The “Francke Case” page offers eight links to Francke related Portland Tribune columns and articles over the past five years. Pretty much the bulk of his Francke related columns while at the Trib for eight years with a Shorty Harden article written by Jim Redden included. The page itself highlights the editorial Nick Budnick wrote on Phil highlighting his involvement in the Francke case over the years.

The “6/14/2005” link is Jim Redden’s article on the interview he conducted with Shorty Harden, and it’s interesting this article is included. Interesting because the article mentions me and the freefrankgable website as being responsible for arranging the interview between the Trib and Shorty.

Webmaster makes link

The Sunday interview was arranged by Rob Taylor, a Portland man who operates www.freefrankgable.com, an Internet Web site devoted to proving Gable’s innocence. Taylor paid Harden $1,000 for the on-the-record interview that he made available to the Portland Tribune. (The Tribune does not pay for interviews and did not pay Harden.) Although the Portland Tribune had a number of background discussions with Harden in the weeks leading up to the on-the-record interview, Harden limited the actual on-the-record questions to his trial testimony against Gable.

Harden declined to discuss the payment on the record. Taylor said Harden is unemployed and worried about retaliation from law enforcement officials.

“He needs it in case he has to protect himself against repercussions from the justice system,” Taylor said.

The $1,000 came from Kevin and Patrick Francke, the brothers of the slain corrections chief, Taylor said, although they were not at the interview and are not involved with Taylor’s Web site. The Francke brothers have long believed that Gable did not kill Michael Francke, arguing that the slaying may have been a plot by corrupt corrections officials who were concerned that Francke was about to blow the whistle on them. As of press time, the brothers had never met or talked with Harden.

Taylor became interested in the case several months ago after reading about it in the Portland Tribune. He has collected hundreds of documents related to the case, some of which he has posted on the Web site. Taylor tracked down Harden in Portland approximately one month ago after receiving a tip that Harden may have moved to town from Arizona, where he lived after the Salem trial.

Taylor’s Web site also publicizes a $1 million reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Francke’s killer or killers. The reward is offered by MFD, a movie company that produced the 1996 film “Without Evidence” based on the case. (Portland Tribune columnist Phil Stanford co-wrote the screenplay.)

The paper is continuing to investigate leads developed during the interviews.

A website devoted to proving Gable’s innocence? Taylor paid Harden? Taylor said the $1,000 came from the Francke brothers? The Francke brothers are not involved with Taylor’s website?

Yeah, Taylor paid Harden due to the Francke brothers using him as a middleman, and it was only $1,000 just prior to the interview, with everyone knowing an additional $2,000 was to be paid to Shorty the following day. As for the Francke brothers not being involved in my website…yeah, if you’re talking about the idea or creation of the site itself, but if you’re talking about the content and how I obtained documents, pictures, conclusions and analysis on various issues, knowledge of the case, well then, Kevin figured prominently for nearly the past year leading up to that point.

My website publicized the $1,000,000 reward at the suggestions of Kevin Francke and Phil Stanford , who after numerous requests by me, failed to provide documentation on how anyone would go about collecting the reward money should they provide the necessary information. Should’ve been an easy enough task considering Phil wrote the screenplay for the movie, and him and Kevin were heavily involved in the project.

As for the paper continuing to investigate leads developed during the interviews…I’ll comment after I stop laughing so hard.

What was written about me in that article was a distortion of the truth, and in my opinion, a reflection of an attempt to discredit me by insinuating my site was devoted to proving Gable’s innocence, and I was trying to do that by paying witnesses to recant their testimony. The Trib knew the Franckes’ were paying Shorty using me as the middleman, yet reported that statement by quoting me rather than simply reporting that issue themselves as fact.

Did it work? Ask Frank Gable’s sister Francine Sinnett.

 

 

Welcome to PhilStanford.com

Jodie Swearingen turns 38 today

That’s right! Today is Jodie’s birthday.

 

Happy Birthday Jodie! I sent her a text message too. I wonder if that phone is in Kevin’s pocket? Haha! It was kinda weird when she gave me a new phone number within days of initially giving me her phone number.

 

Kinda weird that she’s allegedly deaf now too. Quite a convenient way for anyone wanting to get between me and Jodie should I end up being able to contact her. I’ve had no way to confirm it’s true.

 

Geezus, I was cynical enough before involving myself in this case.